Discrimination is not automatically bad. I discriminate on the kinds of foods I eat, on the programs I watch, and what movies I see. In fact, we all discriminate. We all have criteria by which we judge what is, and what is not, acceptable. I discriminate against child molesters, I will not let them be around my future children unattended. I discriminate against various theological teachings contradict the Bible. I discriminate all the time, and so do you.

When it comes to homosexuality, I believe that God has condemned it as a sin (Romans 1). But my agreeing with God that homosexuality is a sin is not the same as discriminating against homosexuals. I have no problem working with homosexuals in a secular environment. I have no problem with homosexuals being my neighbors. I have no problem with working out at the gym with homosexuals. In things like these, I don't discriminate.

Likewise, I would agree that some one should not be fired from a job (in the secular realm) because he or she is a homosexual. I think that is wrong, not because it is based on sexual orientation, but because we should treat everyone as equally as possible.
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  • xchristildeathxDiscrimination is not automatically bad. I discriminate on the kinds of foods I eat, on the programs I watch, and what movies I see. In fact, we all discriminate. We all have criteria by which we judge what is, and what is not, acceptable. I discriminate against child molesters, I will not let them be around my future children unattended. I discriminate against various theological teachings contradict the Bible. I discriminate all the time, and so do you.

    When it comes to homosexuality, I believe that God has condemned it as a sin (Romans 1). But my agreeing with God that homosexuality is a sin is not the same as discriminating against homosexuals. I have no problem working with homosexuals in a secular environment. I have no problem with homosexuals being my neighbors. I have no problem with working out at the gym with homosexuals. In things like these, I don't discriminate.

    Likewise, I would agree that some one should not be fired from a job (in the secular realm) because he or she is a homosexual. I think that is wrong, not because it is based on sexual orientation, but because we should treat everyone as equally as possible.

  • xchristildeathx@mafonso why would you feel discriminated against? Because he believes you're going to go to hell? Who cares? If he mistreated any group of people then that would be wrong, but like I said everyone discriminates on everything from the food we won't eat, to the clothes we won't wear and the people we chose to hang out with. It's not a bad thing, we all do it. I've hung out with gay friends and family and loved them the same and if they were hetero. Most of them really aren't concerned about the "righteous torment," and how concerned are they, honestly, while being a active homosexual? Most are just dismissive to God, faith and religion altogether. Lol it's so funny how one mans opinion brings out such utter and mind boggling ignorance. Here's the facts. A man said what he said and used the word of God to back his claim. You disagree with it and have provided nothing other than your own subjective difference of an opinion, and maybe used the fact that other share your opinion but hold no weight really. So when you object to or any other Christians condemning homosexuality as a sin you have no objective moral basis by which you can make such an assertion. At best all you're doing is giving me is your opinion and it is incredibly arrogant to think that you're opinion is the standard of morality for everyone else.
  • mafonsoIf someone told me I was going to hell and I was religious I would most definitely care. Just because some people can pass it off as whatever he's just someone I don't care about so it doesn't affect me doesn't mean that everyone can. He can say whatever he wants but for anyone to think that they can say whatever they want and not be responsible for the things they say and of course he's allowed to say it. But I guarantee you there is something in his contract that he cannot do what he did.
  • mafonsoBut*
  • xchristildeathx@mafonso dude you're not getting it, I'm done talking in circles.
  • mafonsoI'm sorry you don't agree, some people clearly agree that if you tell a group of people that they are going to hell that its discriminative. That's it ha
  • xchristildeathx@mafonso some people can feel however they want to, it's when people say other people aren't allowed to have an opinion is when the actual discrimination takes place. A&E are discriminating against freedom of speech. I ask you when does the actual discriminating take place? In the kind or in out actions?
  • xchristildeathxMind^
  • mafonsoNetworks have complete control of their employees and can fire them based on whatever he went against in their contract. Which probably went somewhere along the lines of publically discriminating a portion of viewership haha
  • xchristildeathx@mafonso oh thsts obvious but how is it discrimination when asked a question to answer truthfully?
  • mafonsoNetworks have complete control of their employees and can fire them based on whatever he went against in their contract. Which probably went somewhere along the lines of publically discriminating a portion of viewership haha
  • mafonsoPlenty of people know that you are allowed to say no comment on certain questions. And his agent should have caught that before it went out to the public. Sucks to be him but he isn't the smartest guy on the planet and probably didn't think about it.
  • xchristildeathx@mafonso no one debating it discriminating. Were arguing what moral ground do you have to stand on to say that he is mortally wrong other than your arrogant opinion?
  • xchristildeathx@mafonso it doesn't suck to be him i for one am proud of him, I'd rather die on my feet for something I believe in them to live on my knees avoiding a questions about what I believe about my faith.
  • mafonsoBecause he is discriminating someone based on his religion. Not human rights.
  • mafonsoIt would be a different story maybe 15 years ago. But right now the battle for gay marriage is here. Imagine a gay woman not being able to see her lover on her death bed because the hospital only allows immediate family. Kids raised by two gay men stripped from the non biological father when the biological one dies because they have no legal affiliation. The religious animosity towards their lifestyle keeps the vote swayed in favor of keeping this good human beings from having necessary human rights. And this public figure supports their claims. The network doesn't and they probably feel strongly enough to just drop him and even face a lawsuit because of it.
  • xchristildeathx@mafonso you're argument is neither here not there because even if gay marriage becomes legal it doesn't make it morally right. Please see OP where I addressed this.
  • mafonsoIf you think its morally right to deny these people what I just stated than the conversation is over.
  • xchristildeathx@mafonso I don't but you don't dictate when the conversation is over. You come to my page with terms of "religious animosity" and "religious torment" and have failed to explain how having a different opinion correlates to animosity. You foolishly, have made more assumptions about faith, religion, and moral objectivity, for some sort of trendy political agenda you've back while avoiding every question I've asked you. You've literally shown how ignorant your opinion is. So you can continue to comment but I'm done listening and done repeating myself. I literally think you saw this post and didn't read a word I said before you chimed in with your own political banter.
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