Some of my political campaign button collection. Note the Nixon pin in the center. #cantlick #ourdick #nixon #alsoairguitar
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  • doctorfreeSome of my political campaign button collection. Note the Nixon pin in the center. #cantlick #ourdick #nixon #alsoairguitar

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  • stewart.bunnyA collection of buttons representing some of the very worst Presidents and Presidential candidates in U.S. history? [Except for Kennedy, of course]
  • doctorfree@stewart.bunny I take it you do not think highly of McGovern, a man who stood alone in the U.S. Senate against the Vietnam War, or Carter who tried and failed in the 70s to set this country on a path toward sustainable energy? They are two of my favorites. But, the pic is really for the Nixon pin.
  • stewart.bunny@doctorfree you're right. Roosevelt and Johnson started the trend to turn the Democrats into America's Socialist Party and McGovern was by far way more radical than either.
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    It was the nomination of McGovern, which turned out to be such a boondoggle, that made the Dems institute the superdelegate system so that the will of the people could be countermanded should they choose someone that was unelectable.
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    Carter wasn't a radical when he was elected but so hopelessly incompetent that he didn't have much of a chance against Reagan. He did nothing to solve the misery index reflecting double-digit unemployment, interest rates, and inflation, etc. or any of the other problems of the day (eg. Iran hostage crisis).
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    The Democrats would have remained in power had they nominated candidates a la Truman and Kennedy …
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  • doctorfree@stewart.bunny heh heh "incompetent" Jimmy Carter lowered federal energy consumption by 15%, created the Department of Energy and the Department of Education, negotiated the Camp David Accords, pardoned Vietnam War draft evaders, returned the Panama Canal to Panama, successfully negotiated the Salt II treaty, and delivered the most impassioned and well stated plea to the American people to reduce energy use and break our reliance on foreign oil, an addiction he felt lay at the root of our military conflicts. I wish more of our political leaders were so incompetent.
  • stewart.bunny@doctorfree Honestly some of those claims are just absurd! First of all no one can overstate how wonderful it is that Israel and Egypt are at peace but as President of the United States wasn't Carter's primary duty to first make sure everything in America was alright? He should have been more concerned with double-digit inflation, double-digit unemployment, and double-digit interest rates, rather than intractable Middle East problems.
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    About the Camp David Accords: I give Anwar Sadat about 97.3% of the credit for the peace that ensued. All Carter did was provide a place for them to talk. If you find a cure for cancer in my living room I'm pretty sure you will deserve all the credit for that accomplishment. Though my sympathies are with Israel I'm going to give almost all the credit to Anwar Sadat. Israel has sought peace partners wherever they could find them and has always been willing to make peace and trade land for peace. Sadat deserves almost ALL the credit, Begin a little and Carter next to none.
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    Lowered gas consumption? That is a bizarre claim. How important is that when unemployment is double-digit and the prices of fuel are skyrocketing? I guess from your point of view if Carter had screwed everybody out of a job no one would have had money to buy gas he could have reduced gas consumption even more. Yes, in a really bad economy the wheels of production grind to a halt and energy consumption is reduced; is that another PLUS in Carter's column? Truth is that energy consumption was reduced in the 70's for numerous reasons and none can really be a big credit to Carter. The embargo, gas lines, shortages and rationing (which came back in Carter's reign of incompetency) caused Americans to buy fuel efficient cars from Japan. And during shortages prices escalate and consumers aren't willing to pay the outrageous prices for fuel and thereby consume less. During Carter's administration fuel prices skyrocketed so consumers couldn't afford it and bought less. In 1976 gas was .59¢ a gallon and when he left in 1980 it was $1.19, prices had more than doubled during Carter's reign of incompetency, and you credit him with reducing fuel consumption … ?
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  • stewart.bunny@doctorfree (part 2) The creation of the Dept. of Education … really? And we know that was a good idea because the American education has gotten much, much better and much less expensive right? Periodically they have had to raise the standards on the SAT tests and make admittance to colleges and universities much harder right? According to Pew Research Center we are 24th in Science & Reading and 39th in Mathematics. If my memory serves me right we spend more per student than every other country except Switzerland. The only people that benefit from the DOE are the teachers, not education, and certainly not the students. When candidates promise to eliminate a department the Department of Education is always at the top top of the list why if it was such a good idea?
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    I'm either against or ambivalent about pardoning Vietnam War draft dodgers, the creation of the Department of Energy and returning the Panama Canal to Panama. What do we say to the Vietnam War draftees who were every bit against the Vietnam War as the draft dodgers were but obeyed their country's call to duty and then lost their life, their limbs, or their sanity? Do you really think a society should permit it's citizens to obey the laws they agree with and disobey the one's they disagree with withput ANY penalty?
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    SALT II what's the point. The Soviet Union collapsed, thanks to Ronald Reagan et. al., so that turned out to be irrelevant.
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    So now “delivering a most impassioned and well stated plea” is grounds for accolades? Really?
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    You say he felt our reliance on foreign oil lay at the root of our military conflicts. If that is true he was an even bigger dunce than I could have imagined.
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    We fought the Spanish-American War over oil (oops we didn't). We fought WWI over oil (oops we didn't). We fought WWII over oil (oops we didn't). We fought the Korean War over oil (oops we didn't). We fought the Vietnam War over oil (oops we didn't).
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    That covers the 5 main conflicts America fought from the time that oil became a desired commodity up through the time that Carter was President. It's not hard to see why many believe he was the worst President in US history!
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  • stewart.bunny@doctorfree Apparently George McGovern had an epiphany late in life. Unfortunately he found out much too late that all his do-good-ing legislation was often actually hurting the people it was intended to help.

    The article summary can be found at Forbes as the top link if you Google "How To Create Jobs, By George McGovern". In the 3rd paragraph of the summary article a link to McGovern's complete article "A Politician's Dream Is a Businessman's Nightmare" can be found archived at: digital.library.ucla.edu.
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